Maintenance worker who shot teens has concealed carry permit

MILWAUKEE (WITI) — FOX6 News is learning more after two teens were shot to death on Milwaukee’s north side on Wednesday afternoon, March 12th. Milwaukee police say a 39-year-old maintenance worker is in custody at the Milwaukee County Jail in connection with the shooting. But could this be a case of self-defense?

A 19-year-old man and a 17-year-old girl were shot and killed in an apartment building near 27th and Vliet on Wednesday afternoon. The shooting reportedly occurred after some sort of argument.

Milwaukee police on Thursday identified the 19-year-old and 17-year-old. The 19-year-old is identified as James Bell, Jr. The 17-year-old is identified as Anmarie Miller.

Family members tell FOX6 News the two were a couple, who had young children together.

“She has two babies and it`s just — she wont be there now. We will help support those children. I lost a family member, and that’s all my concern is right now,” Miller’s cousin, David Guerrero said.

“He wasn’t a bad kid. It’s just — everybody makes bad decisions in their life. Things don’t go as planned. I wish the outcome would’ve been better,” Devonte Coleman, a friend of Bell’s said.

A representative from the Milwaukee County District Attorney’s Office says the case is under review by their homicide unit — but there is no word yet about possible charges.

Meanwhile, a vigil was held at the scene Thursday evening in honor of the teens who were shot and killed.

At the door to the apartments where the shooting occurred on Wednesday, on Thursday, Bob Braun talked with FOX6 News about his friend, who is now behind bars.

“I know him to be a peaceful person. He’s lived and worked in the inner city for 10 years as a maintenance man,” Braun said.

Since he hasn’t been charged in the case, FOX6 News is not naming the maintenance worker, but police say he was changing the locks at the apartment building near 27th and Vliet when he and the teens began to argue.

Investigators say the teens, along with a 20-year-old man, held the maintenance worker down and beat him with a baseball bat.

“Apparently, these people were mad that a friend of theirs was getting evicted.  They thought – apparently – that he was the manager,” Braun said.

That’s when police say the maintenance man pulled out a gun and shot the 19-year-old and 17-year-old.

Braun believes the shooting was in self-defense.

FOX6 News has learned the maintenance man has a concealed carry permit and was in legal possession of the gun.

Sources tell FOX6 News the maintenance worker has asked for a lawyer while in custody — and as of Thursday morning, he had not provided a statement to police.

FOX6 News is told the incident cannot be considered self-defense until a statement is given.

Attorney Alex Flynn isn’t representing the maintenance man in this case, but says based on the facts we’ve heard so far, he believes the man could argue that he fired his weapon in self-defense.

“In all self-defense situations, a person may use that degree of force necessary to repel the force against them,” Flynn said.

Flynn says we may even hear an argument for the Castle Doctrine.

“The Castle Doctrine says you can use force presumptively if it`s your home, car or business. Now, this is where he worked,” Flynn said.

We are also told the fight and shooting were captured on video.

Family members and friends of the teens say they want to see the video before making any assumptions about what happened.

“Hopefully we can see the tape and get some answers,” Guerrero said.

The 20-year-old man involved in this incident was arrested for substantial battery.

Police say they have recovered the bat and the gun used in this incident.

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42 comments

  • Joanne

    Its very unfortunate that two people died but what was the maintenance man supposed to do? Fearing for his life being beaten with a bat & outnumbered.

  • Steven

    agreed Robert, how ignorant that once again criminals and thugs are raisied up the thier community as innocents or heroes, what message does that send? the EXACT message they intend for it to send

  • IMO

    I would’ve done the same thing had it been me. He did everyone a favor by sending a message that we’re not gonna take this kind of behavior from our youth any longer. Or anyone else for that matter. Thugs need to learn to take their medicine if they’re going to give it.

  • Jim

    A slant? Why did the guy have a baseball bat? It was a weapon that he had for the sole purpose of beating the guy who was working for a living. One less puke in this world.

  • Sheila Moyet

    Open your eyes. It was 3 against 1 and they were beating him with a baseball bat. He had every right to defend himself. What would you do if 3 thugs were beating you to death with a bat????

  • Sheila Moyet

    I totally agree. These were 3 thugs that would have killed an innocent person doing his job. There is something really wrong with a community that would honor these criminals.

  • Shadow

    Who will help this worker just trying to make a living? Who pays his medical and legal bills or replaces his paycheck because of these kids who think they have the right to act as they did. Good thing for conceal carry! Maybe we should start a fund and hold vigil’s to help the worker. Shame on you Fox 6 your reporting on this story makes the injured worker look at fault. Why don’t you send the message these actions are not acceptable instead of feeling sorry for the dead kids.

  • Kimmi

    She wasn’t a thug! Unless you know her don’t even try to say anything! I knew her and she was one of the nicest people I met! She would do anything to make others happy! Don’t even try to say anything bad about her!!!

    • Jim

      They are thugs that the world is better without them. The inner city is a sewer because people like you support thugs, rather than condemn them for the people they are. Supporting them, makes you part of the problem.

    • Grampa Dick

      She tried to beat somebody, what don’ you understand. We need to start a fund to help the man in jail!!!!

      • Kimmi

        Unless you have physical proof that SHE did something; WHICH YOU FUCKING DON’T! You have no right to say anything!!!

    • shelly

      Nice people go to beat the hell out of others with a bat all the time…right? Oh…wait…probably not.

  • Diana

    this situation is unfortunate all around. But what is totally an equally unbelievable is the ignorance and hatred being spewed by everyone making
    comments to each other. would the sentiment be the same if it were in a different area? Will the sentiment be the same if it were a drunk driver that killed someone in Mequon? what about the bad apples in your family? What about the pedophile uncle you all keep a secret? Or the heroin addicted cousin or sister or brother? I hear both sides and both sides had their part in the madness. Their just happened to be a loss of life. Its tragic! No matter what anyone believes that guy was someone loved one and those kids was was also someone’s loved on. Oh let me guess, all of your people are just perfect. We live in a corrupt world and when u don’t live for God you are liable to do anything and act anyway. Sin is what rules your life. But be not deceived God will not be mocked. What people sow is what they will reap. This includes the people on here going crazy on each other. ?

  • Diana

    And not for one second , for all of those saying “that’s what they get”, do I believe that if u were in the shoes of the families involved would u feel the same way. U would not be sitting around saying ” I’m glad they killed my son. He deserved to die.” If u say that you would feel this way,, you are a liar and the truth abide in you not. Violating the man was wrong and killing those kids was wrong. There was an argument before the fight and murder. It could have been diffused.

    • Jim

      Do not attempt to rationalize bad behavior. These were three pieces of vermin who beat a man with a baseball bat because he was doing a job. I’m sure Charles Manson’s had people who thought he was a lovely person. The world is better off without these three songs.

  • kv

    You know I just love how so many people have such rude comments to say about teens they don’t even know. I went to school with anmarie and she is one of the sweetest and kindest people. But since “all teens must be the same” they must have been “thugs”. So is someone make mistakes and don’t always handle certain situations in a positive manner then they must be the worst person in the world right? Yes what happen was wrong nor am I going to try to justify it but just like if It was someone you knew…she has people that love her to. People who know what her and her babies father were about. So judge all you want. There’s people who are crying for her right now like her kids. You people need help.

    • 2econd

      kv, they became thugs when they started beating on a guy w/ a bat. I suppose you would have that same mentality if this were one of your parents, or a loved one of yours getting beat? i think not. if this would have been a story about the maint. guy beating on the 3 “thugs” you would have been all on board of him getting the bullet instead of your “friends” now wouldnt you. so s u c k it.

    • Beth

      Sweet and kind? Sure a 17 year old girl with two babies and enough of a temper to beat up a man…yes, she sounds like a saint.

  • triplea

    Smells like wet puppies and cinnamon spice candles on this page, I wonder why, maybe its because of all the spartans commenting on this page.

  • David Fuller

    don’t forget that local Fox stations aren’t right leaning like national Fox news but left liberal leaning. Makes it a little easier to understand HOW they can say or print certain things. doesn’t make it right, just re-informs the “everyone is a victim” mentality of the left pulling through.

  • josephsuchorski

    It’s sad when anybody loses their Life BUT maybe these Criminals will think about the consequences & what happened to the Criminals who beat the Maintenance Worker. The Innocent People are not going to take it anymore. It’s like “Death Wish” with Charles Bronson. I carry when I am on Duty as required by law but I also carry when I am off Duty too. If you are going to rob somebody or harm them or their Family or try to commit any other kind of criminal act against somebody, then expect there to be some consequences in some way or the other. This is why I support Concealed Carry & the right for Innocent people to protect themselves. You play with fire & you’re going to get burned. I also support Vigilante Justice too when the Law fails or refuses to protect the Innocent & put the criminals in Prison.

  • Jason

    Go figure 2 thugs/scum are dead and the friends are crying they are good kids and didn’t do nuffins. Tired of this garbage 2 children before age 18 is not a “good kid” Beating someone with a bat is not a “good kid” now that they are dead they may start to behave.

  • Jason

    Sadly apparently more justified incidents like this need to happen to wake the thug community that WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS BEHAVIOR ANYMORE. If you were debating on getting a ccw permit this should cement it for you. Get one, train with your weapon, know the law. Hopefully you will never be forced to use it in this case it saved his life. Police can’t be everywhere and in Milwaukee we all know the slow response times.

  • kluv

    This situation has a sad outcome! But the reality is this…yes the situation could have been diffused, but the one person who could have done that, decided to videotape this beating! They became involved in something that they clearly had nothing to do with! And now they’re children are left motherless and fatherless at the same time. Now’s not the time for pointing fingers, he defended himself, and that’s that!

  • Denise

    Thank GOD the innocent maintenance man had a gun. Too bad he didn’t get all vermin. If the corrupted “police” try to charge him. and, persecute him – every needs to stand behind HIM. and defend HIM.

    Do NOT be intimdated by the increasingly Anti American “cops”, that protect VERMIN like the thankfully dead attackers. Pay attention to the citizenry of CT – who are MAKING the corrupted cops BACK DOWN, in the gun grab attempt.

    The White Christian Founder of the USA wanted us to have the real power. They wanted “The Government” to be afraid of US.

    Do not EVER forget this. We have abandoned our duties, as vigilant adults, for decades. We are witnessing the results. So let’s get back to our posts, as Guardians of all that is good, sane, and righteous.

  • Lep R. Chaun

    Self defense was definitely warranted in this matter. If the worker had not feared the people ATTACKING him, he would not have fired his weapon. Perhaps the next person they attacked would have only wounded the attackers rather than kill them. Bottom line is, what do you expect when you gang up on a person with a baseball bat? Shot; that’s what I would do and I do not blame the victim (maintenance worker) at all. And nope,, this is NOT a racist comment (unlike some of the others on this forum) I’m black and live in the same neighborhood but if in the same predicament would pull the trigger to ensure my safety and stop my attackers. I pray the families of the deceased are comforted by God’s grace.

  • Stephen Peterson

    I’m going to go out on a limb and assume the 3 attackers were Black and the man defending himself was White. Black on White hatecrime is at epidemic levels in this country.

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