School district bans sites, but would “Slenderman” have raised red flags before stabbing?

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WAUKESHA (WITI) — New developments — one day after two 12-year-old girls were charged as adults, accused of plotting their friend’s murder for months, and attempting to kill her in a Waueska park this weekend.

12-year-old Morgan Geyser and 12-year-old Anissa Weier each face one count of attempted first degree intentional homicide as party to a crime — and each faces 60 years in prison.

The criminal complaint in the case says on Saturday, May 31st, a citizen called Waukesha police to report a stabbing — after locating a 12-year-old girl suffering stab wounds on the sidewalk in the area of Rivera Drive and Big Bend Road.

The complaint says the girl told the man: “Help me, I’ve been stabbed.”

The man called 911 and tried to apply pressure to her wounds — and stayed until the Fire Department arrived.

On Tuesday, June 3rd — for the first time, we’re hearing that man’s 911 call.

CLICK the audio player just below to listen to the 911 call from this case.

When officials spoke with the stabbing victim, the complaint says she told them she was stabbed in the woods of Davids Park by her best friend, Morgan Geyser.

The complaint says the victim suffered 19 stab wounds — and was rushed into surgery at the hospital.

Doctors at the hospital reported she was “lucky to be alive” — according to the complaint.

“One suspect held the victim down while the other suspect stabbed her 19 times in the arms, legs and torso. Many of the stab wounds struck major organs. But, incredibly and thankfully, the victim survived this brutal assault,” Chief Jack said.

The complaint says police spoke with Weier — who spoke about a website called “CreepyPasta.”

The complaint says Weier explained this was a website that talked about horror stories — and people can create their own stories.

It is on this website that Weier told police she learned about “Slenderman” — the leader of CreepyPasta. Just below Slenderman is the killer. Just below the killer is the proxy. In order to be a proxy, Weier explained, you have to kill someone — to show your dedication to Slenderman, according to the complaint.

The complaint says Weier told police many people do not believe Slenderman is real — and she said she wanted to prove the skeptics wrong.

The complaint says Weier introduced Morgan Geyser to the CreepyPasta website — according to the complaint.

The complaint says in December of 2013 or January of 2014, Geyser told Weier — “We should become proxies of Slender.” Weier told police she said: “Okay, how do we do that?”

That’s when Weier told police Geyser said they needed to kill the victim in this case to prove themselves worthy to Slender, according to the complaint.

The complaint says the girls were able to learn that “Slender” lives in a mansion in the Nicolet National Park — and the girls planned to kill the victim — and then walk to Slender’s mansion and become one of his proxies.

The complaint indicates neither of the girls felt much remorse over what happened when speaking with police.

Geyser reportedly told police: “It was weird that I didn’t feel remorse” — and Weier said: “The bad part of me wanted her to die. The good part of me wanted her to live.” This, according to the criminal complaint.

This case on Monday, June 2nd had Waukesha Police Chief Russell Jack reminding parents to monitor their children’s activity online.

“Both suspects had a fascination with a fictitious character that often posted to a website that is a collection of small stories about death and horror. Parents should not be allowing their children to have unrestricted or unmonitored internet usage –whether it be on their computer on their smart phone on their PlayStation. All of those accesses to the outside world,” Chief Jack said.

The CreepyPasta website — and others involving Slenderman are now banned within the Waukesha School District — but because the site isn’t violent, Waukesha School District’s Superintendent says it wouldn’t have raised a red flag before Saturday’s incident.

“We can write all the policy we want, but the fact of the matter is we have no control over students when they’re out, off school grounds,” Waukesha School District Superintendent Todd Gray said.

Counselors have been made available at Horning Middle School — the school the girls in this case attended.

Meanwhile, the CreepyPasta site has issued this message:

I’ve recently been alerted to the horrific events that took place in Wisconsin.

I’ve received both messages of concern and blame, and while it seems that the Creepypasta Wiki is bearing the brunt of media attention and finger-pointing, I feel it’s necessary for me to make a statement.

First and most importantly, my condolences go out to all the families involved. I cannot even imagine how painful and confusing and awful this has to be for them. I don’t have children, but I can imagine how my mother would feel if something like this happened to me, and it absolutely breaks my heart to even consider her having to go through that. The families of the young ladies who committed this crime also have my heart going out to them – I know this can’t be easy for them as well, and I’m sure they’ll have to deal with mistargeted backlash and anger even while they try to get through such a trying time themselves. So when I say that I extend my deepest sympathies and my prayers to those affected, I hope that you understand that I mean it. I know that words can seem hollow or come off as mere lip-service to the cynical, but it’s the truth.

CreepyPasta also addressed the stabbing in a blog posted early Tuesday morning. The post, titled “Fiction, Reality, and You,” calls the stabbing an “isolated incident” that does not “represent or attribute the Creepypasta community as a whole.”

This wiki does not endorse or advocate for the killing, worship, and otherwise replication of rituals of fictional works. There is a line between fiction and reality, and it is up to you to realize where the line is. We are a literature site, not a crazy satanic cult.

For most of you reading this, you’re probably thinking this is a no-brainier that stories here are mere fiction and know that they are just mere fiction. This blog addresses to newcomers and “die-hard believers”, who will otherwise, likely to believe in these stories.

Hopefully, the gruesome crime that happened in Wisconsin will not repeat itself again, and our hearts go out to the families affected by this crime.

The citizen who came upon the 12-year-old stabbing victim and called 911 does not wish to speak with the media, but released a statement on Tuesday afternoon:

“Our family wishes to offer its thoughts and prayers to the victim, her family, and to the entire community, which is profoundly shocked and saddened by the recent event.”

The victim in this case remains hospitalized.

Geyser and Weier are scheduled to be back in court on June 11th.

An attorney for one of the girls says he wants her moved to a mental institution because she is showing signs of mental illness.

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33 comments

  • Terrible Teddie (@Neva_Eva_Always)

    I’ve been following creepypasta on fb and YES this should’ve been banned. I’m in my late 30’s and think that stuff’s creepy. I don’t just blame the schools but the parents who don’t monitor their children’s internet activities. These girls might not have seen it in their own homes but at a friends or on someone’s phone but they should’ve NEVER been allowed freedom of getting online anywhere.

  • Mary

    12 year olds dont need internet access unless they are doing Homework. I have a 12 year old, she BEGS all the time “mom please can i have FB all my friends have it”..i could careless! I trust my daughter to do the right thing, but don’t trust the internet and the things she wishes to explore, such as FB, tweeter, intagram and myspace..she claims it’s to play games, so i buy her the full versions of the games for 2-5 bucks each and tell her now she has no reason to be on those sites.

    • sam

      Hi Mary, I’d like to disagree with your reasoning. There is plenty of bad on the internet. But there is both knowledge of good and evil on the internet. The internet is a now necessary tool for learning in a competitive world. Learning should not be restricted to homework. I’d love to think that if I was raised on the internet I would be magnitudes smarter and more knowledgeable about things. You can learn anything. Just like when written word was introduced to humanity, and just like how that enabled humanity to progress and learn a lot faster (remember history, exchange ideas), the internet provides that same progress but magnifies it enormously. You’re free to raise your children as you please, but there are other options for filtering internet content (besides an all out ban) on the internet, I would personally not want to be resented by my grown child from stunting their limitless intellectual growth.

      • Love

        Hi Sam, I’d like to disagree with your reasoning too. I believe that’s what libraries are for, to get educational books and gain intellectual growth or just to have some fun reading a book. I believe in online class, but kids definitely should be monitored very closely. And also social media does more harm than good for kids in general.

  • Sharon

    Although this is a sad situation I find it very disturbing to hear people says “things like this doesn’t happen in this neighborhood” “Waukesha”. The Devil works in all neighborhood, he works all over the world. Know one is excluded.

    • zan

      I’m sure they’ll get to it. And Huck Finn, and anything else they can label as ‘subversive’. Soon, Waukesha schools will only be reading the bible and gun maintenance manuals, because ‘MURRIKA.

      • Love

        I wish that happens, if kids read more the Bible and read or watch less garbage they would be happier and normal kids. There’s no need to fill their brains with such horror stories! Young brains cannot handle such things! It’s a miracle that little girl is alive! This is a scary thing to happen to someone so young specially coming from her “best friend, who she trusted”.

  • Kurt Thomas

    There should be absolutely NO access to ANYTHING like this within any school. Schools need to take responsibility just as much as parents. As far as these two little monsters, they should be charged as adults! These are serial killers in the making and what they did (planning the murder, changing the strategy of the murder, and then leading and manipulating the child into a trap) in nothing short of henious and these little monsters need to go away. Having a 3 year-old daughter, I have enough to worruy about. Parents and children should not have to worry about a child being led to their deaths by “friends” who are psychopaths.

  • Jeri Burke

    Obviously something was wrong with these girls mentally….blaming a web site with creepy reading material is asinine. Are Goosebumps banned? .How about Harry Potter or Grimm’s Fairy tales?
    I cannot stand the holier than though attitudes that blame the parent and say my child would NEVER do anything like this….the majority – 99.9% of kids don’t. What happened was awful…I guaranty you the parents had no idea their girls were so mentally unstable…that is what this is a mental health issue.

  • zan

    I don’t think that people realize how profoundly stupid the Waukesha school board really is. They put iPads into the hands of the grade schoolers this year, with little to no input from the parents. Some hayseed podunk on the board likely thought ‘oh hey! Big fun toy! Want one!’ and then made a really crappy decision. Well, here we are. Waukesha is a terrible place to educate your kid. Our great teachers (and we do have great ones) are RUNNING away at record speeds to get away from these narrow-minded, reactionary dingbats. What a shame, it used to be great, too.

  • ed

    I just visited the home page of creepypasta.
    All they tell you is that they are stories. Nowhere
    does is explain that they are works of fiction.
    And the thing I found most disgusting and disturbing
    is that they have a link for video games to rein children in. I also believe that if there is going to be a site like this there should be an age limit to even get to view the creepypasta website.

    • barefootandcrazylife

      Copied from the top of the page: CREEPYPASTA.COM – Scary Paranormal Stories & Short Horror Microfiction

      Also, I couldn’t find the link for video games, but I did find a link to some neat suggested charities (like the literacy site and project night night for homeless kids) that creepypasta would like people to donate to in lieu of financially supporting the site.

      What ever happened to personal accountability? It used to be that when someone blamed their actions on another person, a fictional character, or a being of a religion, adults kept the blame where it belonged. I talked to my girls (8 & 12) about this case. My 12yo, in her best ‘are you stupid’ tone of voice said “They’re just stories mom, no one believes that stuff is for real.” me: “Well apparently these two girls do.” 8yo: “Maybe there’s something wrong with them.” Huh, from a little kid … *mind blown*

  • caszey6891

    Just because the district blocked creepypasta, it doesn’t mean that there are not another 1000 sites out there and more being added daily. If kids really wanted to get onto those sites, they WILL find a way; if that’s through finding another site similar to the one blocked, using a search engine that hides the sites being viewed from the server, or through their own personal devices since schools and some parents are giving children as young as 6 smartphones and tablets. And age restrictions on internet sites are a pointless tool that any 12 year old desperate enough to want to view those sites to understand to hack.
    Where is the line drawn for what is blocked at schools? I obviously agree adult sites and social media sites should be blocked at school, but who is going to keep up with every new site that may have something wrong or inappropriate about it? If we want to block every site that involves murder or some sort of inappropriate theme we are going to have to block all news sites, history web pages, and literary resources. These topics are everywhere, and there is something in the United States called freedom of speech. I have never heard of creepypasta prior to this tragic event and my friends, and family members who are still in grade school and high school haven’t either. Just because two girls found this site and took things literally and WAY WAY WAY too far, should the whole school district be up in arms about internet usage at school? I think if the district is going to start to cover themselves for this event they should get rid of the iPads at school and just have internet usage in computer labs for kids and have a strict no phone/tablet policy, that way things are as closely monitored on their end as it can be. That’s how it was when I was in grade school through high school and I think I had a great education without all the fancy gadgets at my disposal (I will admit, I was caught once or twice texting on my pink Motorola Razor in high school).
    The only people to blame for the crime are the girls who committed the crime. Yes, the parents should have monitored their children’s internet usage more, but how can they, along with friends and teachers, tell if there were any other warning signs of their children’s intentions or problems? The victim thought these girls were her friends that she could trust; if I knew my friend was a potential psychopath I wouldn’t be hanging out with them willingly. There are many stories are out there that children committed suicide, hid pregnancies, had drug problems, had a mental illness, or committed crimes that parents, peers, teachers, and friends did not see any signs of until it was too late. I never had an issue as troubling as the ones I listed when I was younger, but how many of us can HONESTLY admit to not hiding something from their parents when they were younger?
    So, let’s not place blame and cast the first stone on the internet or the parents, but figure out how we can prevent another incident like this happening again. Maybe instead of putting money into buying kids iPads, let’s spend that money for monthly counseling sessions where counselors can talk to each class about important topics in the community or problems they may be seeing around the school while observing children who may have problems at home, school, or mentally. This obviously would not be 100% full proof and there are probably better ideas out there, but let’s start to take interest in the children’s group and individual well being.

  • triplea

    These thugs are the product of the suburban fabulous entitlement attitude that manifests itself in rural ghettos. The streets may appear cleaner on the exterior but in these rural, suburban ghettos, the thugs still exist and are being raised by parents who share the same suburban fabulous entitlement attitude. Materializing children with no proper discipline and the result is these weird rural thugs who commit mass shootings and stabbings because of their entitlement attitudes. If they can’t have what they want these little thugs act out in violence. Send these suburban fabulous entitlement thugs to jail.

  • Aria

    It is actually quite easy to get to the creepypasta wiki from schools, my brother used to go on it all the time. We made him stop when the nightmares started. The thing is at least in my school district the way they block sites is messed up, good luck with your in class only journalism assignment that involves examining an article from an online news site when all news sites are blocked. But oh! You want newgrounds or creepypasta? Go on ahead. I once accidentally found pornography while doing research on octopi for science class.

  • Vee

    Well I could say a lot about where the blame is being put, the mental health of the two girls, the school systems, etc… A lot has been said. But what hasn’t been said is; thank you to the citizen that stopped to help, amazing how u stayed calm and did what you could, and god bless for finding that poor girl in time and stopping. You may not think twice about stopping to offer help, but sadly not everyone would do the same.

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  • Mike Tyson

    STOP CALLING IT CREEPY PASTA, it has NOTHING to do with SPAGHETTI. It’s Creepy PASTE-uh, from COPY PASTE UH, from COPY/PASTE. It’s an extremely common and well known Internet meme, having to do with people accusing commenters of copying and pasting stories that they claimed were their original content but clearly weren’t. So someone would say “copypasta”, as in you copied and pasted that. Then, on internet forums like reddit, when asked “what is the scariest thing that ever happened to you”, people would tell their ghost stories. When someone would post a story that has been told a million times and wasn’t theirs, someone would say “creepypasta” to indicate that it was copied then PASTED, not creepy macaroni. It just sounds stupid to keep saying “creepy spaghetti” over and over and over again. so STOP saying it fox 6,you sound like the uncool mom that mispronounces everything that has to do with pop culture. It’s PASTE-uh, not PAH-stah. You just sound stupid.

  • RC

    This is THE most dumbest things i’ve EVER heard!I know they’re just 12,but come on,they believed there’s a tall faceless murderer with tendrils on his back???I personally love creepypastas but i know they DON’T EXIST


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