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MADISON (WITI/AP) — Republicans abruptly ended a hearing on so-called "Right-to-Work" legislation on Tuesday evening, February 24th -- but not before lawmakers voted to send the bill to the full Senate for debate on Wednesday. It was a surprising end to a marathon day of emotional testimony.

On Tuesday morning, lawmakers entered into an "extraordinary session" at the Capitol in Madison, as the Senate Labor Committee heard testimony on Right-to-Work legislation. Testifiers disagreed as to whether making Wisconsin a Right-to-Work state will improve the economy, create jobs and help workers.

Public testimony was supposed to go until 7:00 p.m., after beginning at 10:00 a.m. Tuesday -- but just before 6:30 p.m., Stephen Nass (D-Whitewater) cited a "credible threat" that union workers planned to disrupt a vote, and he cleared the room.

In the chaos, Senator Chris Larson (D-Milwaukee) was unable to cast a vote, so the bill advanced to the full Senate by a 3-1 margin.

"What you saw tonight was a disgrace to democracy, was a disgrace to the public who had waited the entire day, in some cases traveling four, five hours to get here at the chance of having their voices heard," Senate Larson said.

Republican senators were led out of the room by armed officers. This, as protesters expressed their disappointment outside the hearing room.

Afterward, Senator Van Wanggaard (R-Racine) issued an explanation for what happened:

"We got wind of threats that were being made to disrupt the hearings, and it was a different crowd of people that were coming into the Capitol, and Capitol Police were concerned that there might be an issue. There were threats that they were going to disrupt and force Capitol Police to haul them out physically," Wanggaard said.

The so-called Right-to-Work bill would ban contracts between businesses and unions in which workers are required to pay union dues.

Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce (WMC), the state's Chamber of Commerce, has been pushing for Wisconsin to join 24 other states in passing the measure.

Wisconsin's measure would go the extra step of making it a crime, punishable by nine months in jail and a $10,000 fine.

Wisconsin Public Research Institute president Mike Nichols says research has shown that passing the law would help the state's economy, raise wages and give workers more freedom.

Advocates for Right-to-Work say it's a policy that gives the workforce more freedom and makes businesses more competitive -- especially in the manufacturing-heavy Midwest, where both Michigan and Indiana have recently passed Right-to-Work laws.

"The bottom line is to move our state forward, Wisconsin needs a modern economy," Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) said.

Senator Fitzgerald authored the "Right-to-Work" legislation. He was the first to testify Tuesday. He argued that the purpose of the legislation is to help Wisconsin's workforce.

"At issue here is the simple matter of individual freedom. This issue at its heart is about worker freedom.  That means no employer can discriminate against any employee for their refusal to join or support a labor organization," Senator Fitzgerald said.

This testimony took place as hundreds of protesters rallied at the Capitol Tuesday.

Union workers are among those opposed to making Wisconsin a "Right-to-Work" state. They're irate over what they see as a push for corporate profits and political power.

"This to me seems like if they would be honest and say, 'you know what?  This is nothing more than a political front.  We want to kill labor as a political movement.' I would say, 'you know what, so be it. Then we know where you're at.'  But to say 'it helps the workers?'  That's B.S.," William Mensing said.

Tuesday's hearing was the first step in what promises to be a fast-tracked legislative calendar. The Senate Labor Committee plans to vote to send the bill to the full Senate Tuesday night. That body plans to pass the bill by Thursday.

Scott Manley with Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce is the bill's leading supporter.

"What we found over the last 10 years is that Right-to-Work states grew twice as many jobs as non Right-to-Work states," Manley said.

Gordon Lafer, a professor at University of Oregon Labor Education and Research Center, says Wisconsin does better than Right-to-Work states on a variety of measures, including income, poverty levels and violent crime. He says each state has a different economy, and the fact that some create jobs is the result of a variety of factors. For example, successful Right-to-Work states like Texas and Florida rely on oil, good weather and tourism for jobs.

"There's no law you can pass to put oil under your ground or to change the weather or to make yourselves a tourist destination like Disney World, so you have to take those states into account, and not say how are those states doing and assume it's because of Right-to-Work.  You have to say all other things being equal, what would the impact be of a Right-to-Work law?" Lafer said.

Scott Manley says Right-to-Work is "a significant reason" why those Right-to-Work states have added jobs, but he admits it's not the only reason.

The full Senate is expected to debate the bill starting Wednesday. Another protest is planned for Wednesday at the Capitol.

Governor Walker has said he would sign Right-to-Work legislation if it made its way to his desk. While in Green Bay on Tuesday, Walker said this will be good for getting more businesses into the state of Wisconsin.

"What is some of the top things they look at -- it's a variety of things from tax climate, regulatory climate, legal climate to workforce issues, but one of the things they routinely ask bout for businesses for coming in from the region, around the country, or sometimes from around the world is 'what's your status whether you're legally required to be in a union or not?'" Walker said.

READ IT: Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce testimony on Right-to-Work.

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10 comments

  • Sharon

    It’s a Republican run station – do you really think the poll is rigged in their favor. Right to work does nothing but kill the middle class. Why is it that the unions have become the big bad enemy – divide and conquer hail Walker! May play to your base and donors, not to the working class, the Republicans do not get it they will never hold the Presidency again if they don’t change their tactics…

  • David

    Tell me how any thinking person can believe that the busines groups that are pushing our elected representatives for these ‘labor reforms’ are doing it because they know it will result in higher wages for their workers and bring in more potential companies into the state . Does your company want more competition from out of state?

  • Barbara Rotramel

    The only problem is when right to work is passed, salaries will drop for union workers, resulting in other businesses lowering wages for non-union workers. All lose.

  • George

    If a contractor bids a project at the wage rate set for equipment operators he will be bidding on same playing field with other contractors. . If they dismantle the union how will hire certified operators that are trained?
    If the state approves the this plan and contractor bids a project he may find out that they will be paying above the operator rate to attain operators which will prevent companies from making a money? Explain

  • MUDDOG

    Mr Bob yes you could take the union dues money and spend it BUT WHST IS YOUR NON UNION EMPLOYER GOING TO DUE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WHEN YOU RETIRE I BELIEVE THERE WILL NOT BE TO MANY PENSIONS OFFERED FOR YOU NON UNION WORKERS.

  • 1Busydad

    It’s all about power and control. Study the history of the American Labor Movement from its beginnings in the 1800s through the Clinton administration. Horrible abuses and conditions by business owners and managers led to workers banding together and forming bargaining groups (unions) which were initially, and often, violently suppressed by both the business owners, local law enforcement, and hired thugs (Pinkertons). Starting in the 1930’s, national unions (AF of L and CIO, UAW, UMW, etc.) organized groups of individual worker’s unions to add strength through mutual support. In order to do this, funds were raised by establishing a national “dues” system. Unfortunately, as with any undertaking, when massive amounts of money are gathered, the criminals eventually took over and forced government to pass legislation strengthening their cause (closed shops), thereby increasing their power and literally taking control of businesses away from the entrepreneurs and investors who started them. The best examples of this are the strikes of the 1950s and ’60s when businesses with massive orders to fill were forced to their knees by union actions halting production. Finally, after the assassination of the Kennedys, Reagan’s firing of the air traffic controllers, NAFTA’s passage by Bill Clinton resulting in massive relocation of production overseas, and 24 states with Right to Work Laws, the national unions have suffered both massive losses in funding (dues collections) and power. And Its All About the POWER!. I believe that the employees of any business should band together and form their own bargaining unit (union). It is in the best interests of both labor and management. It can result in cost savings, time savings (efficiency), and provide better communication and conflict resolution, without the interference of the appearance of a power struggle. I worked for such a company, and it was the best job I ever had.

    • D. McCloud

      You are so right, back in the late 1800’s three business tycoons, rockefeller, carnegie and Morgan got together with their money to buy the political seats so they could run their business’s the way they wanted to and they did exactly that, and the poor working people suffered for it.

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